Thank you Cabasilas, Alpha Omega and Atlantis!
~Merry
the photo-drama of creation (1914) in scanned pdf format (117 mb).
info on the book and directions on how to download it below:.
most of the material from the scenario of the photo drama of creation is online in various formats by various bible student groups, but this pdf file consists of scanned images from the original volume as published by the watch tower society.
Thank you Cabasilas, Alpha Omega and Atlantis!
~Merry
oahspe, a new bible in the words of jehovih.
http://www.angelfire.com/in2/oahspe3/boj.html.
Oahspe is a book written in 1880 by an American dentist named John Ballou Newbrough [1828-1891]. He claimed that it was the result of automatic writing, dictated to him by spirits in a trance. http://www.sacred-texts.com/oah/index.htm
~Merry McGoogle
ex witness of 20 years here.
by the grace of god (or something anyway) i managed to get out.
i visited this forum about 5 years ago and noticed the u.n. issue.
How nice that you are here, _Man! Hope you stay for a while.
I like Mouthy's name for you, and some of the others' too, but whatever you want to call yourself/want us to call you is ok by me.
~Merry
you guys this has really freaked me out so much tonight as i was looking though my revelation book climax at hand i was looking to see where we had left off and i usually do this by seeing where i have stopped highlighting in the book.. so i started at pg 156 & 157 of the book so there were a bunch of marks on those two pages their are pics nothing special there.. but on page 159 their is a pic of jesus in the heavens where he is extending his handout to get a piece of paper and that's where i notice on the hand that were the wrinkles are supposed to be there is a face like a fetusnow i mean anybody can tell you that is a face of a baby.
i don't know why a baby on jesus hand or what it suppose to mean.
i guess it really shows how the control tower (watchtower) make me a jw feel really shitty.
That is NOT a normal looking hand.
~Merry
i'm hoping someone can clear this up for me.
i was recently released from an inpatient behavioral health unit.
i was wondering jw's stance on mental disorders and tratment.
Hello and welcome.
Here is a quote from a JW magazine at their official website:
Some have made considerable improvement by using the suggestions that have been discussed. There are cases where additional help may be necessary. Some, for example, have been helped by medication.# Others have sought the help of a mental-health expert. Awake! does not recommend or endorse any particular kind of treatment. Whether a Christian pursues such treatment is a personal decision. He should be careful, however, that any treatment he receives does not conflict with Bible principles. http://www.watchtower.org/e/19980722/article_03.htm
All I know is, it can be very confusing being a Witness, especially growing up as one. The things they say, as here, can sound very balanced and reasonable and yet, might not fully reveal what one has learned as a JW in a controlling JW environs for years.
As a JW, I would have interpreted this article, according to everything else I had read and learned and experienced as a JW, to be saying that even though this is a "personal decision" and medication and expert help might be beneficial, they are not really worth the risk to your good standing with God, since mental health professionals are usually not JWs and might advocate something that violates what the Governing Body of JWs tells you are the Bible's principles. So it is better just to pray and go door to door and read the Bible via their "Bible-based" publications more, and follow some of their simple recommendations. I would have thought that since the Awake! does not endorse any particular kind of treatment then I had better not seek out any beyond what they themselves offer.
That is how I would have read it. Others might read it differently, according to their own experience and understanding. I remember unofficial verbal warnings and anecdotes in the congregation I attended, that made me feel expert mental health assistance was, more often than not, dangerous to true Christians (i.e. JWs). It was not forbidden, that I recall, and yet was discouraged. But when I mentioned this to my JW mother some years later, she didn't remember it that way and didn't really seem to know what I was talking about.
~Merry
i was just looking back over some of my old inquiries and got curious about mainstream articles written about jws back when the public was, perhaps, a little more aware of who they were.
a critical booklet by leslie rumble, "the incredible creed of jehovah's witnesses," written during the presidency of knorr, said:.
the witnesses of jehovah constitute one of the most vigorous and spectacular religious propagandist bodies of the present day.
Thanks for that info Leolaia!
~Merry
i was just looking back over some of my old inquiries and got curious about mainstream articles written about jws back when the public was, perhaps, a little more aware of who they were.
a critical booklet by leslie rumble, "the incredible creed of jehovah's witnesses," written during the presidency of knorr, said:.
the witnesses of jehovah constitute one of the most vigorous and spectacular religious propagandist bodies of the present day.
Found these too:
"Face the Facts" http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,931748,00.html
"Devil's Emblem" http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,755356,00.html
"California Cults" http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,738983,00.html
"Judge Rutherford" http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,730814,00.html
i was just looking back over some of my old inquiries and got curious about mainstream articles written about jws back when the public was, perhaps, a little more aware of who they were.
a critical booklet by leslie rumble, "the incredible creed of jehovah's witnesses," written during the presidency of knorr, said:.
the witnesses of jehovah constitute one of the most vigorous and spectacular religious propagandist bodies of the present day.
Thanks for those links nvr!
~Merry
i was just looking back over some of my old inquiries and got curious about mainstream articles written about jws back when the public was, perhaps, a little more aware of who they were.
a critical booklet by leslie rumble, "the incredible creed of jehovah's witnesses," written during the presidency of knorr, said:.
the witnesses of jehovah constitute one of the most vigorous and spectacular religious propagandist bodies of the present day.
The guy had cojones . Good for him.
If you're speaking of Goodrich, it appears he was not reluctant to confront Rutherford either when he felt he had an important point to make:
From the Philadelphia convention in November 1929, I journeyed to Brooklyn for the express purpose of interviewing the Judge. After brief greetings and formalities, JF said: 'Well, Brother Goodrich, what is on your mind?" When I mentioned the name "Abrams", the Judge terrifyingly growled: - "IS THAT ALL YOU CAME UP HERE FOR?!!! With equal force and alacrity, I replied, "IT'S ENOUGH SIR!!! WHICH IN YOUR OPINION IS THE MORE DANGEROUS TO GOD'S ANOINTED: SPIRITISM OR ALUMINUM!!!!!!!?
While he was getting his breath and words, I had pounded the table before him for about thirty minutes, telling him what I knew.
I feel sorry for poor Mrs A and all the others burnout from all the "vigorous, propagandising, door to door work" they had to do. What further pressure she and the others must have felt to be told that a stomach worm was causing all their problems and that all they now needed to do was get rid of it.
It reminds me of the "cleansing" grape diet a couple of pioneers adopted a few years ago to give them more energy and enthusiasm for the work - they ate nothing but grapes for 2 weeks.
I feel sorry for them too.
My mother did the grape diet off and on for years. I didn't know where she had gotten the idea from until finding information here on "The Grape Cure" and JWs. I didn't know any of them were still doing it, however. My mom was the only one I knew of who did.
~Merry
i was just looking back over some of my old inquiries and got curious about mainstream articles written about jws back when the public was, perhaps, a little more aware of who they were.
a critical booklet by leslie rumble, "the incredible creed of jehovah's witnesses," written during the presidency of knorr, said:.
the witnesses of jehovah constitute one of the most vigorous and spectacular religious propagandist bodies of the present day.
As a footnote: Just did a search on Roy D. Goodrich, not thinking I would find anything, and came up with this-- "Roy D. Goodrich and the ERA Ouija Board" by Ken Raines.